When singer/songwriter Paul Simon wrote ‘Fifty ways to leave  your lover’, he would have had no idea that the European Chemical Industries  Council (Cefic) would re-work it for its 2017 annual Chemical Congress in  Vienna into ‘Fifty ways to leave the EU’. But as BBC TV’s Hardtalk interviewer, Stephen Sackur noted when introducing a  discussion about Brexit: ‘I would like one way – it is a heck of a mess!’
  
Continuing trade is the key issue for the European chemical  industry. But as an independent member of the EU Parliament, Julie Girling, told  delegates: ‘In December, there will be an agreement to talk about trade.’ In  return, she believes the UK will offer €50bn as the so-called divorce  settlement. 
  
A deal on citizens’ rights is almost done, and the EU will  give in on concerns about the involvement of the European Court of Justice, she  said. She believes the EU favours a trade agreement similar to that with  Canada, adding: ‘This would be good for chemicals but bad for the financial  sector’. One thing that will not happen quickly will be an agreement regarding  the Northern Ireland border, which she thinks will take much longer than two  years.
  
Regarding a two-year transition period after Brexit, Girling  believes the UK government wants to be out of it before the next scheduled  general election, while the EU wants it ‘for its own reasons’ – something many  observers believe is due to the timing of the next EU budgetary period.
  
But as Sackur noted: ‘This doesn’t erase the image of a  mess’, asking Girling if there are any real signs of a deal? ‘Many don’t  believe Brexit will actually happen,’ he said.
  
In response, Girling said she believes that Brussels doesn’t  understand the UK’s strategy and tactics, but also that ‘it is virtually  unbelievable that the UK will change [its mind on departure]’. Even if the  current government falls, and Labour takes over, it is unlikely to reverse the  process, she said. However, if the UK stayed within the EU ‘there would be no  upside – nothing would change’.
  
Charles Grant, director of the Centre for European reform, noted  that there are some signs of changes in opinions in the UK, with more people  joining the ‘don’t knows’. ‘Changing your mind is a big thing, and the change  is coming from both sides,’ he added. He believes the EU has to ‘become a bit  kinder’ if a satisfactory outcome is to be achieved.
  
Speaking for the chemical industry, Tony Bastock, CEO of  Contract Chemicals and VP of Cefic, said that in terms of planning for Brexit,  planning for a ‘no-deal’ scenario is the only thing that can be done as no-one  knows what the final deal might be! He pointed out that for his company, 70% of  its raw materials are imported and 60% of its products go to the EU, but many  products actually go backwards and forwards between the UK and EU. Without a  deal there would be a 6% tariff each way, so both UK and EU business would be  damaged – ‘our growth is based on an integrated supply chain,’ Bastock  emphasised. Unfortunately, in the absence of any clear guidance, his customers  are already adding 6% to his prices in anticipation of a ‘no deal’ result,  thereby having an impact on his competitiveness. ‘Being competitive is a basket  of things,’ he said. ‘It is about the complete costs of manufacturing.’ 
  
Will the UK still be subject to EU regulations after Brexit?  On this Bastock was very specific: ‘We have to be REACH compliant and REACH is  developing in China and Korea, so we have to meet the regulations,’ he  emphasised. He added, however, that REACH should be the responsibility of the  consumer of the chemicals rather than the producer.
  
When asked by Sackur if the UK government is listening to  the industry’s Brexit concerns, Bastock responded that the government is  listening now, but not necessarily at the start. Chemicals are ‘the industry of  industry – they get that now,’ he said. However, having spoken to the EU’s  negotiator, Michel Bernier, he added that he was told there won’t be any sector  deals.
  
That may not necessarily be the case, according to Grant, who believes the EU may soften, ‘but for a price – money and other things’. He also pointed out that a free trade deal generally does have separate deals within it. ‘It is inevitable that there will be sector deals,’ he stated.
It was difficult to say whether delegates had seen their confidence in an acceptable outcome to Brexit increase or decrease following the discussion. No doubt the discussions and arguments will continue up to, and probably beyond, a final agreement. In the meantime, Sackur concluded: ‘[the UK] continues to provide interest for the rest of the world.’ 
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